SANDY HOOK: Is Wolfgang Halbig a Fraud?!

March 18, 2014 by  
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Halbig donated to Clintons http://red-blue-you.com/committee/Hil…
Halbig, Principal of Aquasplash Pool Services: http://www.buzzfile.com/business/Aqua…
Halbig asking for LOTS of money in comments section, pre-Sandy Hook media attention: http://www.takepart.com/article/2012/…
Halbig says “Obama Hates Jews” in comment section http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/…
Children Safety Institute archived: https://web.archive.org/web/201308180…
CSI website whois search: http://whois.net/whois/childrenssafet…
Dead job reference #1: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/rrst…
Dead job reference #2: http://www.death-record.com/l/1187799…
Job reference #3 embroiled in scandal: http://www.chathamjournal.com/weekly/…
“i got fired” sob story for donations: https://www.facebook.com/wolfgang.w.h…

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153 Responses to “SANDY HOOK: Is Wolfgang Halbig a Fraud?!”
  1. Concerned User says:

    I don’t think he’s a fraud myself, but some of his questions need to be answered either way. What makes me a bit angry is his grammar and spelling mistakes on his emails he sent out. We will see what he does with the donations. All of his information is out on the internet.

    • Riley P jones says:

      It is interesting that someone has bills himself as an educator and educational administrator would have such a poor grasp of grammar, spelling and punctuation. Administrators at the levels that he claims have advanced degrees that require a lot of written content that is critically appraised before the post graduate degree is awarded. At the least, these inconsistencies should raise suspicion about his actual resume and his motives.

      The bigger question is why anybody would believe this tragedy is a hoax? Our government is made up of incompetent bureaucrats that can’t put together an e-commerce insurance website.

      Most of Halbig’s wild claims have either been easily explained or were proven to be flat out wrong.

      The only conspiracy I can see is that Wolfgang is trying to separate gullible people from their money.

      Crap happens in life every day without the help of nefarious resources.

    • Karlfly says:

      So his grammar and spelling bother you? I mean let’s take a look at the guy, let’s pick him apart but is THAT really something even worth mentioning?

      • Jack Blood says:

        is he sending letters to officials on our behalf written like a 10 year old? Then yeah – its worth mentioning.

        • Karlfly says:

          I haven’t noticed. Someone else must be writing his posts that I’ve read or maybe I can just easily decipher 10 year old writing from being a home school teacher.

    • KonanIgan says:

      What kind of disinformatiuon site is this? If not for Halbig Noone would be looking into this obvious Sandy Hook false flag fraud.

      It is absolutley AMAZING to see no papers or television covering the obvious frauds called Snady Hook and Boston Bombings.

      Ourgovernment is entriely corrupt…no one has been arretsed and THEYkeep collecting memorial fund donations. Stunning.

      We are living in Naked Tyranny people. OUr media is far more controlled than the Nazi’s could have ever dreamed of.

      • Karlfly says:

        So NO ONE would be looking into Sandy Hook? There’s a shit ton of people looking into it but aren’t trying to beg for money. If he lives such a comfortable life why isn’t HE paying for it? Why is it so hard for you people to believe there were actually kids killed at Sandy Hook? Since when has the government had ANY compunction about killing kids? They do it all the time. Sure it’s a hoax and there’s coverups but why is everyone so brainwashed that Halbig is the end all be all to the truth?

        • Theresa says:

          Karlfly, Your comment about Halbig paying for it himself is one hell of an IDIOTIC statement. Do you have any friggin idea on the amount of money it takes to unravel this and bring the frauds to court? If left to one man to cover the expenses, this FRAUD would never get exposed and dealt with. And “WHY do some believe that Halbig is the end all be all to the truth?” Because he is the only one to have stepped up to the plate, risking his life, time, and some of his own money to actually DO SOMETHING to bring the fraudsters to justice. Yes, it will take alot more time and alot more money, as you sit on your ass complaining and judging! If you aren’t part of the solution, you are part of the problem!

      • Jack Blood says:

        What kind of disinformatiuon site is this? If not for Halbig Noone would be looking into this obvious Sandy Hook false flag fraud.

        Wolf? you need to learn how to use spell check buddy. If you have nothing to hide then why get so upset when people ask YOU questions?

        MANY MANY people are honestly seeking the truth About SH. (including myself, some of our writers such as Joel Redacted / Greg Knight…) we post our findings (and questions) on this very website!

        You may not have watched the video you commented on – but you could learn a lot here:

        http://www.brendanhunt.com/1/post/2013/01/sandy-hook-cover-up-video-presentation-transcript.html

        • Joel says:

          I’m duplicating my comment about Wolfie here… I think it’s VERY important to look at who his friends are (Jeb Bush!!), and what’s being pushed by his friends… some things just don’t add up. Either way you’re looking at a big push for “Gun Control” and increased “Mental Evaluations”.
          Cheers,
          Joel

          Hi Jack,
          Thanks for the compliment.

          Zuckerman is CFR (British), Bilderberger (Nazis), Yale (Nazi nest, Skull & Bones)… obviously another fake Jew sell out, just like George Soros (Nazi collaborator).

          I think this “Jewish” angle is a real distraction, and exactly what was being pushed on James Tracy by his would be “handlers”.

          Jim Fetzer tries to blame “Israel” for everything… from JFK to Sandy Hook… much like his friend Gordon Duff (“ex” CIA, Veterans Today Senior Editor), and his other friend and talk show host Mike Harris (“ex” Military Intelligence, Veterans Today Financial Editor), who is a hardcore Nazi and tries to blame “Israel” for every mass shootings in the US, among other things.

          My best guess is Wolfie has agreed to play some sort of role, like “Israeli Sympathizer”, take the fall, and destroy any credibility, in the eyes of the public, for the justification for a proper national investigation into Sandy Hook, which is needed.

          Why does Wolfie hang out with all these anti Jews?
          Why is Wolfie friends with Jeb Bush (appointed by him) and the Bush Crime Family (Nazis)?
          Why is Wolfie friends with Hitlery Clinton (a Fascist, friend and collaborator of the Bush Crime Family (Nazis))?
          Wolfie is a German, and he’s friends with Nazi collaborators like the Bush Crime Family… hmmm… doesn’t sound like a “Jew lover” to me… but the title of “Zionist” can apply.

          Fetzer knows nearly nothing about Sandy Hook, just listen to his interview of KateSlate and Kelly from Tulsa, they know 1000x more than Fetzer… likewise Wolfie knows unbelievably VERY LITTLE about Sandy Hook, just listen to his interview by Deanna Spingola (an unbelievably rude woman, who also blames “Jews” for everything), however, she did expose that Wolfie didn’t even know what “The Books” were!!

          This means… WOLFIE HAS NEVER EVEN LOOKED AT THE “SANDY HOOK FINAL REPORTS”.

          This is akin to a lawyer not knowing anything about a case, but concluding he’s solved the crime.

          I’m just saying beware of ALL these people (except grass roots people like KateSlate)… we need to look at the facts, and there’s plenty of MAJOR problems with the official story that we can expose.

          Just my opinion,
          Joel

          • Steven J Lewis says:

            Sorry but Deanna is not rude and Jews are mostly responsible for America, the new Weimar, ills. Dig a little deeper and you’ll see Jews in control.

            Example, the 1965 Immigration Act, which after passed, many Jewish organizations jumped into action. Senator Jacob Javits played a prominent role in the Senate hearings on the 1965 bill. Javits authored an article entitled ‘Let’s open the gates’ that proposed immigration levels of 500,000 per year for 20 years with no restrictions on national origin. But don’t take my word……do a simple search for Jews unite behind push for immigration reform. The article is in the Jewish owned Forward.

            I get tired of this don’t blame the Jews for anything because they were holocausted crap. Joel Stein of the LA Times wrote: “But I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.”

            Don’y worry about the Nazi’s, worry about the modern day Bolsheviks.

      • Jim Fetzer says:

        Good comment, Konanigan. Something is seriously wrong with Jack Blood. It’s bizarre. I hereby challenge him to a debate. Dave Gahary would make an excellent host. We would have two hours to discuss it. I am VERY CONFIDENT he will chicken out and not post this.

        For those who want my views about Sandy Hook, which you are not going to hear from Jack Blood, here’s my most recent discussion of JFK, Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing: http://nwopodcast.com/fetz/media/jim%20fetzer%20real%20deal-paul%20preston%20no%20barrett%20but%20with%20sofia.mp3

        • Jack Blood says:

          I have been challenged to a duel? I already debated Wolf… but sure, why not. A more NEUTRAL forum would be acceptable. and Jim… The only thing “wrong” with me, is that I don’t fall for fads… Nor or am I intimidated by people like you and Wolf.

          • Jim Fetzer says:

            Excellent, Jack. Good for you. I have done three debates with Dave Gahary as host–one with Keith Johnson and one with Michael Collins Piper on Sandy Hook and one with A.J. McDonald, Jr. He is completely neutral, does an excellent job and is going to be creating a new debate web site. This would be an excellent show for him to launch this new venue. We would have two hours to discuss Sandy Hook. Thanks!

  2. Steve Smith says:

    I don’t know who’s paying you or whose dick you’re sucking to spread this dis-info. We don’t want your lame explanations for what you think might explain the thousand anomalies in this massive hoax. We want the principle actors to tell us under oath. Your troll video and the many others that have surfaced since Halbig came into public view prove that he’s over target. Otherwise you’d still be busy playing video games in your mother’s basement. Develop a little integrity, grow a pair. Life is short. Truth is all that matters.

    • Jack Blood says:

      we get to THINK FOR OURSELVES …. What is this? A cult? What Mr Halbig suggests to the gullible, has ZERO precedent. Moreover, Mr Halbig’s unwavering support for the Status Quo, and his public undying love for the state of Israel… Should make ANY THINKING PERSON suspicious!
      ALSO: I haven’t had a mother for 25 years, thanks for that. I am a 50 year old college educated man with a family. But – I take it you didn’t bother to watch the video so… Say hi to Wolfie for us.

      • Joel says:

        “Troll video”??????????

        Brendan Hunt has been researching Sandy Hook from the very beginning, and he’s highly respected in the Sandy Hook Truth community… and that’s from the very best of that community… real grass roots people who have done TONS OF WORK, and never asked for money.

        After first being sucked in by Wolfgang’s touted “credentials”, the most respected of the Sandy Hook Truth community are running from Wolfie like he’s on fire… he is a Johnny Come Lately, promoted by, and apparently “Handled” by, a known movement wrecker by the name of Jim Fetzer.

        Fetzer is a perennial JFK Assassination liar, who styles himself as an expert in the topic, yet he ignores all the best evidence… like the US Navy’s ONI was all over it, from the start, to the autopsy… but Fetzer is “ex” Navy, so I guess he refuses to expose his criminal brothers.

        Read James Tracy’s article below… he’s describing an organization created by Fetzer, sandyhookinvestigation.com, which tried to establish itself to take over the movement, and they used Tracy’s name without his permission… and I won’t even mention the INCORRECT fancy colored Sandy Hook Floor Plan map that they produced, yes INCORRECT.

        How dare you insult Jack Blood like that… he’s been hitting it out of the park for years, and years… and his instincts lead him to believe something was “wrong” about Wolfie, and then he took crap for just having an opinion!!

        But it’s going to turn out Jack’s gut was right… and I told him he was right, and I told him to stick to his guns.

        Regards,
        Joel [Redacted]

        • Karlfly says:

          It IS a cult don’t speak against lord Halbig or thou be damned to hell. The chubby wolf has spoken. It is written it shall be done. I’m not getting why considering the possibility of an op is SUCH a fucking threat to you guys. You’re as bad as the “holograms hit the world trade center” people.

          • Jack Blood says:

            Karlfly – The tactic seems to be do DENOUNCE everyone researching the “Black Op” angle. It seems to be working – for now.

        • Jim Fetzer says:

          There is something wrong with this guy, Joel, who has no idea what he is talking about. My three books on JFK–ASSASSINATION SCIENCE (1998), MURDER IN DEALEY PLAZA (2000) and THE GREAT ZAPRUDER FILM HOAX (2003)–shattered the cover-up and exposed government complicity in the assassination of our 35th president. Among our first discoveries was that the autopsy X-rays had been altered to conceal a blow-out at the back of the head (caused by a shot from the right/front) and that another brain had been substituted (once it was patched, there was nowhere for it to go)!

          This was done at Bethesda Naval Hospital, which shows how little you know about my work on JFK. I have given hundreds of interviews and invariably observe that Oswald appears to have been recruited by ONI as a recruit in San Diego, where I served as a Series Commander with 15 DIs and 300 recruits under my command and supervision taking them through the training cycle and marksmanship training at Edson Range, Camp Pendleton. So you appear to be just pulling this stuff out your ass, which is really astonishing. You are just MAKING IT UP and trashing me when my work has done the opposite of what you describe.

          And you know no more about my work on Sandy Hook than you do about my work on JFK. I have never heard of sandyhookinvestigation.com and, just now, when I tried to pull it up, it’s not there. James Tracy and I are friends and colleagues and neither of us has “tried to take over the [Sandy Hook} movement”, which is complete rubbish. I think you owe not only me but the other readers of this forum an apology for misleading them and demonstrating that, while one of us may be a liar, that one would not be me. Where do people like you come from?

          • Joel says:

            Hi Jim,
            I don’t monitor all the comments on this thread, so I missed your comment from early July.

            So you are seriously claiming you don’t know anything about the now defunct website “sandyhookinvestigation.com”???

            Wow, well maybe you should ask James Tracy who he’s talking about…

            2014.3.19 Wolfgang’s Bad Company By James Tracy (EXCERPT) (memoryholeblog.com):

            http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/19/wolfgangs-bad-company/

            ———————————————————————-

            I became increasingly doubtful of the thesis and how it might prove productive. My suspicion turned to alarm when the parties suggested that vigilante justice be visited upon the alleged Sandy Hook perpetrators. Even worse, a website was developed for the investigation that came dangerously close in name and terminology to mirroring a federal law enforcement agency—calling itself the “US Intelligence Information Center” and using jargon such as “suspects” and “persons of interest.” The individual then proceeded to essentially speak for me, posting the report and my name to social media sites. It was at this time that I sent the following email and discontinued further communication:

            I was unaware that you posted the report on __________ and included my name and institutional affiliation. This was done without my approval, as was the posting of Sandy Hook Massacre Timeline on the website you’ve created. I am going to have to ask that things slow down and that my attorney review any further activity by you in which you use my name in any way. I also ask that you please not use my aforementioned Timeline.

            As for the name of the organization, “US Intelligence Information Center” and website http://www.sandyhookinvestigation.com/ (http://www.sandyhookinvestigation.com/) I cannot at this time approve or lend my support. The use of the title “US Intelligence Information Center” and terms such as “Suspects” and “Persons of Interest” are tantamount to impersonating law enforcement and can likely cause a great deal of trouble for all involved.

            Sincerely,

            James Tracy

            ———————————————————————-

    • Ted Sutton says:

      Hey Steve,

      You language is disgusting. I’ll bet you would not have the guts to say that to Jack Blood in person. You’re just one of those tough guy keyboard warriors.

      Wolfgang Bilbig asked 10 really stupid questions that are preventing what you want to happen to happen at all. So apologize to Jack for you revolting comments. He wants questions answered too. He just wants real question written by educated people.

      Read Wolfgang’s own post on his Facebook page. For an educator his writing skills are very poor. Time to dump this clown if you really want answers about Sandy Hook.

    • Steven J Lewis says:

      I’m still waiting to see the list of all those schools Wolfie supposedly trained. Can’t find a single one on the internet, can’t find any video footage, and no pictures. Surely if this man has done what he says you’d find something somewhere.

      His support for Israel sends a huge red flag shooting up the world’s tallest flag pole for me. Yet people are willing to give him money without questioning his almost non-existent past in the field he claims to be an expert in.

      He may be over a target but its not the one you think. He’s over the one with a pile of money.

  3. Jack Blood says:

    HA – Now even Wolf’s Fellow SH Hoaxers have turned on him! Curtains!

    Wolfgang’s Bad Company 70
    Home • Tags: censorship, conspiracy research, Sandy Hook Elementary

    By James F. Tracy

    For two months Wolfgang Halbig has made the rounds on alternative media outlets to explain his doubts on the official narrative of the Sandy Hook massacre. Now the apparently well-intentioned school safety expert has proceeded to establish an online presence, where he has raised over $10,000 toward achieving “Sandy Hook Justice.” An appearance before the Newtown School Board is tentatively scheduled where Mr. Halbig will publicly demonstrate his indignation toward a cover-up.

    In early 2013 major and alternative news media alike were beating a path to my door. Reporters quite literally chased me around my place of employment, hoping to obtain the scoop on the “wacko” academic who might recant on his observation that the incident in Newtown was likely a big fraud. Even Anderson Cooper fussed on national television that such an individual was employed at a “taxpayer-funded” institution.

    Shortly after this flurry of attention certain parties contacted me and essentially proposed that they become my handlers. The idea was that I would be the public face of a detailed independent investigation into the Sandy Hook episode. For hours they attempted to convince me that the “Sandy Hook actors” were in fact members of the “Greenberg family clan.” They subsequently produced a professional-looking report that I was to tout.

    I became increasingly doubtful of the thesis and how it might prove productive. My suspicion turned to alarm when the parties suggested that vigilante justice be visited upon the alleged Sandy Hook perpetrators. Even worse, a website was developed for the investigation that came dangerously close in name and terminology to mirroring a federal law enforcement agency—calling itself the “US Intelligence Information Center” and using jargon such as “suspects” and “persons of interest.” The individual then proceeded to essentially speak for me, posting the report and my name to social media sites. It was at this time that I sent the following email and discontinued further communication:

    I was unaware that you posted the report on __________ and included my name and institutional affiliation. This was done without my approval, as was the posting of Sandy Hook Massacre Timeline on the website you’ve created. I am going to have to ask that things slow down and that my attorney review any further activity by you in which you use my name in any way. I also ask that you please not use my aforementioned Timeline.

    As for the name of the organization, “US Intelligence Information Center” and website http://www.sandyhookinvestigation.com/ I cannot at this time approve or lend my support. The use of the title “US Intelligence Information Center” and terms such as “Suspects” and “Persons of Interest” are tantamount to impersonating law enforcement and can likely cause a great deal of trouble for all involved.

    Sincerely,

    James Tracy

    Those in the 9/11 Truth movement are well aware of the “cognitive infiltrators” who are only too happy to harness a loose cannon or two that will sabotage or otherwise hinder the genuine remedy of collective intelligence. I am aware that at least one of the parties who misinformed me is now operating as Wofgang Halbig’s handler.

    This is unfortunate because despite Halbig’s awkwardness, the overall thrust of his inquiry—legally interrogating the officials overseeing the Sandy Hook event—is a logical next step toward better understanding what took place in Newtown fifteen months ago. Yet my previous experiences indicate that such individuals will likely proceed to lead Mr. Halbig down blind or deceiving alleys that in the end will only serve to further undermine a genuine pursuit of truth.

    http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/19/wolfgangs-bad-company/

  4. Ted Sutton says:

    One of the best videos on this man I have ever seen. Outstanding! A+!

    This was posted on Wolfgang Halbig’s Facebook on March 7th, 2014.

    ONE OF MY BEST BUSINESS PARTNER QUIT HIS JOB WITH THE CHILDRENS SAFETY INSTITUTE BECAUSE I AM INVOLVED AS HE SAY’S IN THIS CONSPIRACY THEORY ON SANDY HOOK AND IT IS NOT GOOD FOR OUR COMPANY SINCE I WAS TAKING DONATIONS WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CSI.

    HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND AND IT IS CONNECTED TO AUTISM. PEOPLE ARE AFRAID AND I CAN SEE WHY. HE IS THE KEY SO HE LEAVES AND NOW I HAVE LOST MY JOB BECAUSE WE ARE A TEAM.

    I AM FIRED BUT I MIGHT AS WELL BE BECAUSE WITHOUT HIM I HAVE LOST MY JOB BECAUSE OUR COMPANY IS A TEAM.

    Bad grammar…sob story….really poor Wolfgang questions! Thanks so much for taking this guy apart. You are right. He is bonkers. A+!

  5. Stevo says:

    Bag of dicks you suck.

  6. Steve Smith says:

    Mr. Sutton,
    I have no idea who Jack Blood is but I’m sure if he assaulted me I’d bleed all over him. The dude in the video says his name is Brendan Hunt. No, I didn’t watch the whole thing because it is obvious he just skips over HUGE questions with random answers. (ie. No helicopters? Small town? Maybe they didn’t have any. No place to land.)
    Sorry if my use of the language offends some people. This is the first and last time I ever comment on anything on the Internet. I don’t know who is legit or not. I’m going back to my real life in Hawaii. I’ll leave it to all you rocket scientists to decide what is right. Just like 9-11, Oklahoma City and the Kennedy assassination, nothing will come of this. It will just get worse.
    By the way, I heard some more stuff about Halbig. They say he’s a litterbug. And he farts in the car with his grandchildren in the back seat and the windows up and the heater on…and laughs about it.
    Again, my apologies to all.

    • Ted Sutton says:

      Mr. Smith,

      You are right. Nothing will come of this. It is already out of control We are just pissing in the wind.

      Within hours of the LAX shooting there were pages of truther YouTube videos calling it a hoax and false flag. All to soften us up for the big gun grab. The battle for truth may already be lost.

      If you went to a truther convention and got up to speak and said, “all the Jewish kids were taken out of the school an hour before the Sandy Hook shooting”, people would believe it.

      • Steve Smith says:

        I said I was done with this but I am obviously a liar. Spent a couple of hours listening to Blood and Hunt and I have to say that I’m more convinced than ever that:

        a)Blood is a failed musician and disgruntled ex-employee of Jones and

        b) Hunt is a paid shill pretending to do research.

        I think an honest, real investigator would sit back and watch, wait and see what Halbig and Fetzer can put together, not attempt to undermine their credibility before they get off the ground. All you guys tear him to shreds for his poor command of his second language. He was a cop for Christ sake. Not the most educated perhaps, but a bulldog hopefully.
        I think an honest effort would involve hiring the best lawyer to find out where the buck stops, put the various players under oath and ask them the tough questions. It looks as is Halbig is doing just that and leaving all you folks in the dust.
        By the way, are we for or against the Jews? Anytime anybody brings that up, my mind shuts down.
        Finally, I don’t think anybody is paying attention to this website. Very little traffic. It was nice chatting with you Ted. Seriously.

        • Jack Blood says:

          I never respond to this kind of comment here, but allowing for ad homs here without response would obviously look bad. People tend to believe the worst. SO….We have been down this road with Jim Fetzer before. What’s HIS track record? This we know… and as for your pot shot – “failed musician”? Why did I just record with a world famous producer last July? Jealous of Jones? Why did I turn down the #2 position at his company? We are NOTHING alike, I would never want to be him. — We are fairly successful with our work, compete with nobody, and I love what I do now. ——— This story was never about me! Its about a heartless con artist(s)potentially Pushing dangerous disinfo, and hustling the good people wanting Sandy Hook Truth. Thanks.

        • Ted Sutton says:

          Steve, I’ve enjoyed chatting with you also even though we do not agree 100% on Sandy Hook. We respect each other and are civil. Something very valuable to me, and I think a good example to show that people can disagree on a issue and not call each other names. We can have a civil discussion, something that was commonplace in America before we got YouTube,
          and anonymous comments.

          In spite of the bad language in your first post I sensed an intelligence in you and i replied to your comment even though it was directed at Jack. You are I are now friends, and we don’t share the same opinion about Sandy Hook. That kind of thing used to be common in America. People agreeing to disagree without calling each other fucktards or sheep or wing-nuts or crack pots.

          I’m asking you to consider extending this courtesy to Blood. I did listen to the whole tape and I think this guy wants just what you want. He wants answers just like you do. To be truthful with you he is much more organized about actually doing something about this than you are.

          Your first post was much too angry and not realistic. It will be very hard to get “all the actors” from Sandy Hook in court under oath, but if such a thing were possible I would put that task in Jack Bloods hands before I would give it to you.

          If you go back and listen to the whole tape I think you will agree, he is really up on all the questions. His main point is Wolfgang’s writing skills are really poor, and he doesn’t want someone like that being the point person trying to get info from the state of Connecticut. And i agree with him. If you go to Wolfgang’s Facebook page and just read his writing it will be plain for you to see.

          If you can get along with me, and I don’t think Sandy Hook was a hoax at all, you can certainly get along with Jack Blood. And failed musician and disgruntled ex-employee of Jones? Come on man, that’s just the kind of crap that gets us no where. You don’t know that about him. That is just your misplaced anger about Sandy Hook. I understand. You are pissed.

          Listen to the video from the point of view that Jack just wants the best person to be asking the state these important questions. Then go look at Wolfgang’s Facebook page. Do a little Googling on Wolfgang. I think you’ll find and that he is not qualified to be the point person on a Sandy Hook investigation.

          I think you’ll agree, but if you don’t know that you have a friend in Ted Sutton who will agree to disagree, and respect you and your opinion. Good luck on your move back to Hawaii. I almost got a job there in 1983. Was really looking forward to living the island life.

          Be well Steve Smith,

          Ted Sutton

          • Stevo says:

            If you guys are that incapable of hearing the actual sincerity in wolfgang’s plea vs the obvious actors of the sandyhook drill then you get zero respect from me or anyone else who’s spent more than an hour looking in to the events of December 14 2012.

          • Jack Blood says:

            We are supposed to trust a guy on the basis of the tone of his voice now? I’m pretty sure that folks say the same thing about O’Busha, Warren Buffett, Hillary, or any good con artist. Anyway Steve, I would offer your services to the FBI or DHS. Why would they need all of those lie detecting machines when they have clairvoyants like yourself.

          • Stevo says:

            Your discernment does lack a certain fidelity I would expect from someone as informed and intelligent as you come across.
            Attacking this guy without any grounds and saying that sandyhook wasn’t staged because it would be too complicated is either lazy and or cynical and just plain weak.

            That you made such a stink over the Deborah Medina lashing yet you choose to attack this guy with no grounds is truly pussy-like. Quit being the punk rock pissed at the better band because they sold a f’cking record and man the f’ck up.

          • Jack Blood says:

            You’re wasting your time here Steve…. we know where you stand.

          • Stevo says:

            Sorry Jack. I’m pissed that you are the second google hit when you google Wolgang Halbig.
            I can’t figure out why you don’t trust this guy other than the fact he’s somehow competing for your airtime.
            I’d love to chat with you about it .

          • Stevo says:

            And yesterday when you claim the attention you’re getting is because of the missing Malaysian airline.. It’s not. It’s your twisted assumption of wolgang. You’re welcome.
            I guess it’s called riding the shore break to the beach.

            Share, if it makes you sleep
            If it sets you free
            If it helps you breathe

            Don’t come over here
            And piss on my gate
            Save it just keep it
            Off my wave

            Cry, if you want to cry
            If it helps you see
            If it clears your eyes

            Hate, if you want to hate
            If it keeps you safe
            If it makes you brave

          • Jack Blood says:

            nope – we can see all of the numbers here. You keep believing what you like though. Keep listening – Ha. Thanks.

  7. Ted Sutton says:

    Stevo…More than an hour! Really? Wow! That long huh? Well, how much more proof do you need folks?

    Stevo has spent more than an hour looking into the events of 12/14/2012.

    CASE SOLVED.

  8. Jim says:

    After a review of Mr. Halbigs website resume, a couple of observations;

    (1) He was with the Florida Highway Patrol for two years (73′-74′). Academy training requires several months and rookie troopers are initially assigned to routine, traffic duty. His few months of actual “trooper experience” would consist of writing tickets and investigating accidents. (2) He sites being “assigned to presidential details” but the President resigned in August 1974 going directly to California. There’s no indication he was in Miami during Mr. Halbig’s brief tenure. (3) He was a “Customs Agent” at the airport in Orlando during ’93-’94. This was well prior to “9/11” and undoubtedly involvved screening vacationers headed to Disney World. (4) During this same period (’93-’94) he was Assistant Principle of Lake Mary High School. Presumably one of these jobs was “part-time”.

    • Stevo says:

      Wow. Amazing work dick tracy.

      • Laughing Banker says:

        Stevo declares his complete confidence in this incredibly obvious (and astonishingly callous) grifter because of the sincerity in his voice, and when one of you does a bit of actual research to expose the scumbag, he blurts out some childish insult and continues declaring Halbig to be The One Who Knows, post after post.

        Well, at least it gives one a brief glimpse into the “mind” of the sort of person who gives money to grifters like that.

  9. atadesk says:

    Sure, Jack, you can have an opinion. It’s just that, in this case, it’s irrelevant. Clearly, you haven’t looked at the evidence of a hoax. You’ve instead set out to burn a straw man. People that have actually investigated the hoax will simply dismiss you and move on. That’s what you want?

    • Jack Blood says:

      not even close. Thanks.

    • Riley P Jones says:

      For the sake of argument, let’s say there are some unexplained issues regarding Sandy Hook. Absences of evidence is not proof as anyone who ever watched an episode of Perry Mason knows. So, these unexplained issues are not proof. Produce evidence and people will believe. Accusations are not evidence. Showing a picture of a Sandy Hook parent or child, and then saying a picture from the internet of someone who resembles them is proof of a conspiracy is not evidence. It is an opinion based on someone seeing what they want to see. From what I’ve seen the evidence of the Sandy Hook disaster is substantially supported by the facts presented by the authorities. Stack up the “evidence” by the contrary believers and the authorities evidence, and you’ll see that the stacks are very uneven. Oh, and using the “straw man” claiming that the authorities have hidden the evidence so no one can find the truth is the ultimate straw man argument.

      Halbig is a con artist, crazy or both.

  10. Stevo says:

    Sorry you guys have invested enough in your positions you’re now blindly defending them out of some sort of prideful ignorance. To the point of the sandy hook event and not your frail ego issues..
    I happen to be a photoshop professional. I don’t follow the various moron honeypots on the internet by the Dallas goldbugs trolls or that tony hawk was Robbie Parker bullsh*t. I simply happened to have looked at every image from the supposed victims days and weeks after the tragedy and ALL of them, including Adam lanza are manipulated fake images. The soto teacher uses the same head shot in about 10 or more photos. There is definitely a connection to the ‘Greenberg family’.. If you weren’t working so hard to defend the gate you keep you might figure it out for yourselves but for some reason you must die on this sword. Well I’d love to bring you along jack and discuss this with you on your radio show but most days you’re repeating shows and can’t quite get your sh*t together. I hate to attack you personally but the way you’ve treated this guy is making me question your motives. It’s just like Alex jones, you never say why you don’t like him you just spin it till we all get sick of hearing you not making a point. I like you. I like your style better than jones and your interviews are amazing. Please don’t destroy your credibility by being so hypocritical that everyone stops listening. Peace.

    • Riley P Jones says:

      Yes I can read quite well, thank you. The original topic was whether Mr. Halbig was a fraud. I spend a lot of time on the internet doing research for the marketing department of the company I work for. I know how to do these things very well. Just as you claim to be a photoshop professional, I claim to be a professional Internet researcher. Using my own unusual first and last names, I end up with a unique combination that makes it easy to find myself. Googling my name brings up a magazine article I wrote in 1997 for an obscure trade publication with a circulation of less than 3,000. I also found articles where I had a one sentence quote in magazines in 1998 and 1999. Finally, there were instances on the internet where I was either a guest at an out of town Rotary International meeting or was absent from a hometown weekly meeting in the late 90’s/ early 2000’s. Finding my name weekly Rotary Bulletin information drills down to some pretty unusual sources.

      Now, when you try to do the same research on Mr. Halbig, you only get information that he provided. He says he was an expert witness at Columbine. I can’t find any independent reference to him testifying about Columbine. The same with some of his other claims of expert status. Everything refers back to things he says about himself, or are part of a prepared bio that lazy reporters have used.

      He claims to be an educator, but his posts look like something from an illiterate. My wife was a college teacher, who taught students working on their master’s degrees in education. She said that anybody who turned in a paper using Halbig’s style would have never even gotten a bachelor’s degree.

      I don’t have a problem telling you why I don’t like Wolfgang Halbig. He is a phony. Anybody who exploits others for his own gain is beneath contempt.

      I have no investment in my position. I believe Halbig is a fake, and that the events of this tragedy being a faked conspiracy are so unlikely as to be impossible. Even your expert opinion that photos have been photoshopped is not proof that a conspiracy exists. By nature, an electronic image composed of pixels is manipulated. Even continuous tone image you get from film can be manipulated, but are more likely to leave fingerprints.

      The overriding question of who and why anybody would want to fake a tragedy like this has never been satisfactorily answered. Halbig wants a payday, and it’s in his best interest to continue to stir the pot for the gullible.

      • Jack Blood says:

        well said Riley! I am also NOT “invested” into an opinion here. Nowhere in this thread have I even stated my opinion of what I have found (and didn’t find) researching SH. I am merely asking questions, and trying to help my readers / listeners navigate the BS. When I “debated” Mr Halbig (Dangerous Conversation show)- he refused to be nailed down on if he thinks that SH was a “hoax” – seemingly his fans overlook this, even as he plays to them for donations. The fact that the Hoax Coalition leadership has ALSO turned on Halbig and Fetzer (see article above) is worth noting. Thanks.

        • Stevo says:

          Dude. Because like yourself, he doesn’t want to call it a hoax until he can prove it. You still dodge why you think he’s a fraud. Why?

          • Jack Blood says:

            I believe he is a Fraud (i do), because he is asking for money and cant say where its going (to “lawyers”) – and nothing he says regarding his accomplishments (credibility) adds up. satisfied? no…. (ug)

      • Stevo says:

        Your ignorance is tremendous if you can’t why.. Nothing to be proud of.

  11. Stevo says:

    Wow. I’m embarrassed for you. Holy sh*t dude. Pull it together. I actually agree with you.. We all have a right to our opinion. Sorry for blemishing your private property. I didn’t know I was a “hostile agitator” for trying to have a conversation.. What ever.

    • Jack Blood says:

      you’re a hostile for writing ALL of the BS (aka: ad hominems) you have to date posted on this site! which as I said, I do not have to let grow here! The ONUS is not on me – its on YOU!

  12. Stevo says:

    Faked to gauge the reactions by data mining all of us you dweeb.

  13. Stevo says:

    Adam Lanza does not exist.

  14. Stevo says:

    It was faked to get this many anti-gun people to go along with it.
    No one is mad at you. Wake up and snap out of it.

    • Riley P jones says:

      I’m not mad at anybody either. But ask yourself if that theory has any logic. Gun sales and ammo sales have gone up. I live in Arkansas and have owned guns before I was a teenager. A gun is a tool and it is the person who has it either who uses it or misuses it. My dad taught me to respect the power of responsibility with a gun and I’ve taught that to my kids. I think most people think the same way. Your anti-gun actors would have to be the stupidest people in the world, thinking that a ginned up hoax would make people anti gun. My immediate thoughts were people needed more guns than less. I mean look at Chicago, tough gun laws, the highest murder rate in the country.

      Faking a big tragedy would take the cooperation of thousands of people that would have to be extremely stupid. I have friends in Connecticut just a few miles from Sandy Hook. They can tell you it wasn’t a hoax.

      • Ike says:

        Riley you sure live in dumbo-land. What an ass. “Faking a big tragedy would take the cooperation of thousands of people that would have to be extremely stupid.” Obviously you are myopic and brain dead. Stevo has you guys pegged. Ever since I listened months ago to the rants against Fetzer and the Dufster I tuned these guys out for good. Bunch of children, seems like you have a good click of bobble heads here. Oh yeah how about the guy who exposed all the houses being paid off… no smoking gun there, huh? What about all the multitudes complicit in all the false-flags. Idiots… demonic strongholds you guys have little or on understanding of. The whole shit pile stinks and and the one who put it there, very highly complicit is the beast from the ‘bottomless pit’ Zionist who placed their blasphemous IMAGE in Israel and called it a nation of chosen people. One big pile of manure.

        • Riley P Jones says:

          So…, demonic, satanic Zionists have multitudes of followers that could pull this off?

          Do you know how crazy that sounds?

          I thought the hoax was about gun control. Or do you think the beast actually let all those innocent children die, and their parents could be bought off with a free house?

          This is getting more and more ridiculous!

    • Mr Right says:

      Stevo the douche…how many guns have been taken away from you? Last I checked people are buying more guns, more than ever.

      People lose it-they snap and kill others. It’s tragic and sad, we don’t need ‘crisis actors’, whole towns of people to create such events. You have watched too much TV it appears…you live in a fantasy world.

  15. Stevo says:

    Anti gun actors who believe they did something good by faking it..

  16. Stevo says:

    Nice mega straw-man rebuttal … Keep going.

  17. Stevo says:

    FINALLY..

  18. Jack Blood says:

    actually Riley – Steve is in the majority here – Pretty much EVERY MSM page has linked to the Hoax info…. (cause they are scared of it?) they know it will get them hits, and LOVE using this as a wall to validate the “official” story, while shutting down ALL other questions – its too easy. (I hear them laughing now) We will be publishing a FULL report this week debunking the Hoax angle. (such a waste of time – but I know it is something that must be done) In reality – this is all a symptom of a MUCH greater problem. Its becoming clear that dinosaurs like me are no longer needed. Facts, Proof are not what people want. Rhetoric and slander wins the day. If i had no morals… I would buy stock in Jim Fetzer, Halliburton, BP, and Veterans Today about now…. they won. (white flag) #bandwagonsareforsuckers

    • Stevo says:

      Updated posted by Wolfgang W Halbig 11 hours agoWe are traveling to Newtown on May 5th for an…We are traveling to Newtown on May 5th for an evening planning session with CT parents.

      On the morning of May 6th we will visit two of the non-profits such as United Way Western Ct and the Newtown non-profit that have collected $24 million dollars and inspect their records as to who contributed and how the funds were allocated.

      May 6th at 7:30 pm we will attend the Newtown Public Schools School Board Meeting and providing them through our Attorney Paul Spinella our CT FOIA request in person.

      We will also visit the Newtown Police Department to introduce myself and get them to provide us with our CT FOIA requests through our Attorney.

      THey came to my house so now I am going to their house.

      Thanks for having faith in me.

      wolfgang

      • Jack Blood says:

        We will also visit the Newtown Police Department to introduce myself and get them to provide us with our CT FOIA requests through our Attorney.

        So that’s how it works? learning something everyday!

        On the morning of May 6th we will visit two of the non-profits such as United Way Western Ct and the Newtown non-profit that have collected $24 million dollars and inspect their records as to who contributed and how the funds were allocated.

        I’m sure they will be more than happy to let Wolfie examine their records.

        May 6th at 7:30 pm we will attend the Newtown Public Schools School Board Meeting and providing them through our Attorney Paul Spinella our CT FOIA request in person.

        Spinella is primarily an Injury Lawyer. We will be checking in with him tomorrow to verify all of this. http://www.spinella-law.com/pg/firm-bios.php

        hopefully the heat we have put on here has compelled Wolfgang to spend some of your money!

      • Karlfly says:

        His MAIN reason for going after them was “they came to my house” and I will agree that some of his questions are good and demand answers I am just puzzled as to why people get SO veraciously defensive over anyone questioning this guy. He’s trying to raise thousands of dollars, comes out of nowhere. And instead of taking the “let’s see what happened” approach is saying “it DIDN’T happen” I mean there were ALL sorts of theories on the Aurora shooter and we STILL don’t know what went down. Just ease up on defending this guy you know nothing about. You’re supposed to be critical thinkers right? Critically THINK for fuck sake.

  19. Karlfly says:

    But Jack my wife is ready to divorce me ova this. I don’t want to be here. I have a com ta bull lafe. I don’t want to do this. Even though I’ve pocketed $14000 so far. HA! (please use your imagination I’m trying to spell a south eastern accent)

  20. John Boscogolvitch says:

    I think Halbig is doing the right thing. Furthermore, I believe he is the ONLY one that is doing anything. The rest are blogging, posting videos and engaging in much tongue wagging. The shadow government doesn’t care what you think, believe or say. They only worry about what we do. The fact that this man is going to their house with a real investigation has agitated and activated thousands of new dis-info agents and dozens of videos/blogs, indicating that he is on target. I have never seen nor could have imagined so much opposition and fuss over so little. What’s the worst that could happen? Maybe they blow him out of the water and cause all of us who believe in him to lose heart? Is that what you’re afraid of. Are you afraid that he’ll make off with my three hundred bucks? For Christ’s sake, back off and give him a chance.
    You trolls and traitors should be ashamed of yourselves. Don’t you care about the future, your children or the fate of our country. You sit back and denigrate anybody that sticks his head up and then shuffle back into your holes with your gratuity. Crouch, lick the hand that feeds you and may posterity forget that you were our countryman.

    • Riley P jones says:

      I promised myself I wouldn’t write anymore on this subject, but what you’ve said is beyond the pale. Answer me this, if Wolfgang Halbig poses such a threat don’t you think the shadow government could actually do something of a more permanent nature. Like make Wolfie disappear. With the logic you’ve used all that “they” have to do is make him a vague rumor by using their vast network to disappear him. I ‘d really like to know how you can reconcile the SH “conspiracy” on the scale you and your friends allege and not make an illiterate fraud go away. If “they” have so much power, why would they waste time (like I’m doing) on Internet forums. I can’t wait to hear your convoluted answer.

      Oh, skepticism hardly equates to being a traitor. You accept WH at face value because he says what you want to hear. Am I concerned about our country? You bet. As much as I love the Internet, it has given equal weight to the truth and every crackpot idea that anybody who proclaims themselves an expert can come up with.

      Send me $300 if you want to change my mind. I’ll start my own Sandy Hook investigation, name names, places, times, motives, point out every inconsistent thing that happened since the shadow government founded the town for the express purpose of fooling America about the need for tighter gun control. I’ll also point out that it would have been millions cheaper and less complicated to spend the money on advertising campaigns about gun control.

      • John Boscogolvitch says:

        Maybe you think the Murrah Building was brought down by a truck bomb, or that Oswald shot the president. I wouldn’t believe this government if they told me the sky was blue. I don’t know what happened or why, I only know that like Walt Kurtz, “I can’t stand the stench of lies.”

        I sense in your objection to Halbig an agenda. What exactly is your interest? The most charitable explanation I can think of is that you believe Halbig is either a)an unwitting fool or b)a dis-info agent himself, a straw man, set up to fail. We won’t have to wait long to find out. He’s heading up there next month.

        Riley. I don’t believe you. What you say doesn’t ring true. You have a dog in this race. I think you’re working at a job that doesn’t inspire. Tell me: Do you think, for example, they dumped Osama in the ocean? Is there anything your government says that you wouldn’t believe? And would you really change your mind for $300?

        Oscar Wilde said, “A little truth is a dangerous thing and very much of it is absolutely fatal.” Here in this matrix I don’t think we’re in very much danger.

        • Riley P jones says:

          I love my job, even though it has no bearing on the subject at hand. I think your second sentence reveals a lot. You won’t believe anything that the government says even if the information they provide is correct.

          By your logic anything that doesn’t fit exactly into a scenario that seems likely to you, any other alternative must be the truth. Reality is often ugly and when you deal with people the story can be pretty illogical.

          I notice you don’t try to refute the inconsistencies I point out, like the shadow government’s ability to pull off a giant scam, but not be able to snuff out “truth seekers”. Also, you ignored the questioning of how anyone could think staging a school shooting could effectively cause a increased demand for gun control.

          No I don’t think Halbig is a disinformation agent. I think he’s a traditional con man who goes along with people’s beliefs and fears to convince them to give him money.

          I choose to spend my life enjoying my family and friends while contributing my time and talent to my church and community. If bin Laden was dumped off a ship or not explain to me how this affects anyone’s everyday life? If you say it’s because the government is lying to us, I say so what else is new?

          The only agenda I admit to is asking people to think independently and rationally. My sister is a homicide detective in an extremely violent southern city. She says that very little of what happens in a crime scene makes much sense to untrained observers. What the trained observers see is first hand, not Internet pictures or speculation based on rumors.

          All of these so called false flag events fail to adequately answer the most basic question, “Why?” Other than a paranoid dislike of the government there had not been any compelling evidence that the official story is the polar opposite of the truth.

          One more thing, at this point what difference does the Kennedy assassination make? We could say that the world would have been a different place, but who really knows how it would of been if he had not been killed? If there was more than one assassin and there was an organized conspiracy, they got away with it.

  21. Wesley Mouch says:

    Hey Guys,
    I just learned Halbig is going to debate Wade live on air Monday at 7 eastern time. See “AFP Radio: Live debate…” Maybe some of your operatives in the area could go and whack him live on air…that ought to frighten off those pesky truth seekers.

    • Wesley Mouch says:

      You’re video is boring. It’s also filled with petty ad hominem insinuations. Try dealing with the arguments rather than the messenger. You’re apparently so poor that you think $100K is a lot. How much do you think it should cost to expose Sandy Hoax, bring the perpetrators to justice and maybe even overturn the president? $100K might get our foot in the door. By the way, I noticed a donation request at the top of this page. I think somebody is jealous.

      You folks give yourself away. You’re so transparent. If Halbig is such a phoney, such a crook, he’ll self destruct and be forgotten about anyway. If I lose a little money, it’s no skin off your back. Why such an avalanche of hatred and righteous indignation? Somebody has rattled your cage and it wasn’t Halbig. Your handlers, those who give you your marching orders have told you to go out and crucify this guy. Because he is a serious threat to those in power, the moles have come out of the woodwork.

      That’s what I think. If I’m proven wrong, I’ll come back to this website and say so. On the other hand, if Halbig hits a home run and brings national attention to this hoax, will you apologize?

      • Riley P jones says:

        Wesley, if Wolfgang ‘s “investigation” exposes Sandy Hook, brings ANY perpepetrators to justice, or overturns the presidency, I will gladly apologize. If on the other hand your boy wastes your money and does nothing effective, will you ?

        If he is the fraud I allege, $100000 is the tip of the iceberg. Once a con man finds a sucker, they will continue until the well is dry. Then they move on to a new group of chumps.

        For someone so interested in the truth, I find it odd that by suggesting you are throwing you money away on a crook, you took offense. I guess it depends on whose version of truth you choose to believe.

        Handlers? Are you delusional? Halbig’s resume is an unverifiable load of inflated hot air. I’m just a guy from Arkansas that hates for gullible people to be taken advantage of.

        Throw your money down the gutter if you want, but at least be aware that you’re doing it.

  22. DealineLIveSucks says:

    For someone who rails on Wolfgang’s grammar so much, you sure don’t do a very good job “reading” your so-called commentary. You try to come off as someone who is talking to an audience, but in reality, you’re a pimple-faced hack who comes off as a jealous little punk. Go back to your Nicktoons and Spongebob, troll-boy.

  23. My own work suggests to me that verification of Halbig’s details is difficult. If Halbig actually gets his day to present questions, and authorities discredit him as a nincompoop, it will make it harder for legitimate truth researchers to present their questions. Why this man is not already working with a recognized truth seeker is a puzzle to me. The following are three of my communications.

    1__Mr. Halbig has not worked for Lake County Schools since 2009. I’m sorry that we do not have a current email address to share.
    —–Original Message—–
    From: Richard Carlisle [mailto:Richard@ChartFactors.org]
    Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:08 PM
    To: Marshall, Laurie MarshallL@lake.k12.fl.us
    Subject: Varification of current or former association.
    Administrator
    Please help me to verify any association your organization may have with Mr. Wolfgang Halbig and any email address that you may offer so that I may contact him.
    Mr. Halbig is listed as being part of your organization here: http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Wolfgang-Halbig/44321104
    ===========================================
    2__Reply came to this email via voice mail on 576-5596 on Monday, 3-17-14. Karen Ponder verified employment contract ended and he worked there for several years. Info at zoom.com is correct. Return phone number is 407-320-0321.
    —–Original Message—–
    From: Richard Carlisle [mailto:Richard@ChartFactors.org]
    Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:45 PM
    To: ‘Dede_Schaffner@scps.k12.fl.us’
    Subject: Varification of current or former association.
    Administrator
    Please help me to verify any association your organization may have with Mr. Wolfgang Halbig and any email address that you may offer so that I may contact him.
    Mr. Halbig is listed as being part of your organization here: http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Wolfgang-Halbig/44321104
    ===================================================
    3__ Richard;
    I should not have taken the owrd of a friend who is also in Law enforcement as fact.
    With so much in this 67 year old’s head was too much info, It should have stated that between 30 to 40 gallons of blood not 40 to 60 .
    I apologize and thanks for correcting me.
    wolfgang
    —————————————————————————-
    From: “Contact Us form”
    To: “wolfgang halbig”
    Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:53:10 PM
    Subject: Someone submitted your Contact Us form
    Name: Richard Carlisle
    Email: Richard@chartfactors.org
    Phone number: 417-576-5596; 417-877-1255
    Subject: Please provide facts
    Message: Can Halbig explain or correct his statements regarding 60 gallons of blood to clean up? If each body bled 3 quarts of blood there would have been 20 gallons of blood at best.
    Can Halbig clarify WHICH police parked one-quarter mile from the crime scene? State or City?
    Why is THIS organization located at PO Box 459, Drums, Pa. 18222?
    Why is/was this site on a server in the British Virgin Islands – Road Town at Confluence Networks Inc. ip #208.91.197.27
    What is with the server in Jacksonville, Florida, myregisteredsite.com and the current ip #209.17.116.2 for sandyhookjustice.com?

  24. Jaque Maehoff says:

    Riley,

    May I illustrate a point? You mentioned earlier that you are a church member. This means that your money goes to support an institution that burned witches, created sin and then sold indulgences, protected the Nazis, advocated an earth centric universe as late as 1955, takes in billions but pays no taxes and to this day maintains a multi-million dollar slush fund for the sole purpose of paying hush money to victims of sexual abuse at the hands of the priesthood. But I haven’t made it my mission to try to save you from yourself or save your funds from going down a rat hole. If I did you would wonder how it was any of my business. But thanks anyway for trying to protect me from being taken advantage of.

    And I said already that I will be the first to apologize if I have made a bad call. I think you’re living in a very small world. If you ever want to break out into the light, might I suggest two words. Building Seven. Or “building what?” as a New York judge recently asked. That he didn’t know is testament to the matrix that we are immersed in.

    A liberal, a commie and an illegal alien walk into a bar. The bartender says, “Hello Mr. president.”

    • Riley P Jones says:

      Sorry, but I’m a Methodist, which had its roots in the Anglican church in England during the late 1700’s. The churches you’re talking about are the Catholic church and the Pilgrims. So, your attempt at sarcasm falls flat.

      It amazes me that all you CT people try to bring in subjects completely irrelevant to the conversation about whether or not Wolfgang Halbig is a fraud. Building 7 and Sandy Hook are connected?

      Your group automatically assume every bad thing that happens is a plot carried out by a super efficient shadow government that has deep roots in every thing that happens anywhere. My world may appear small to you, but at least it’s not a world that sounds like something out of a comic book.

      We native Arkies pretty much take a live and let live attitude toward life. We might make a suggestion if we see you’re about to drive off into a ditch, but if you ignore us, we figure it’s you own business. If you want to live in a fantasy world and send your money to people who will take your money and laugh at you gullibility, have a great life.

      Cute name, and good joke by the way.

    • Kris says:

      I heard the joke differently: a Muslim, a queer, and a socialist walk into a bar. Same punchline.

  25. Riley P Jones says:

    Well, all you Wolfgang supporters, has your faith in your man been justified? He spoke to the school board, and his pointed questions didn’t get them to break down and confess like the bad guy did on Perry Mason every week. He found out the requests for the donor lists for the charitable contributions didn’t need to be requested since they were already on line for anybody to see. I’d say your boy’s moment in the sun is over. But, I could be wrong. Maybe you just need to send him some more money.

    • Jack Blood says:

      No – it seems that his fans and supporters are very pleased…. I am not sure why?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPKlILINoXY&feature=youtu.be

      http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Newtown-school-board-greets-Sandy-Hook-skeptics-5458643.php#photo-6267855

      Did he actually submit the FOIs? Was his “lawyer” there as was intended?

      • Joel says:

        So you thought the “Human Chandelier” circus crash was bad…. that was nothing compared to “Jim Fetzer’s Flying Ass Clown Circus”…

        Seriously, would anyone want to be associated with this fake “Patriot” in the clown suit (note how he perfectly positioned himself for the camera) going by the name of “Melbourne San”???… but his ridiculous costume just wasn’t enough, he also had to pull a stunt of “hanging Governor Malloy in effigy”… no one could dream up a more divisive and offensive action to lay at the feet of Sandy Hook truth seekers.

        But one must also ask, if Sandy Hook was such a “clean & innocent” event, then why was the king of truth movement divide and conquer (ie, 911 Truth) Jim Fetzer commissioned to invade the realm of Sandy Hook???… after all, Fetzer has shown he knows virtually nothing about Sandy Hook, and what he does boldy state is mostly wrong, or easily debunked.

        So I must ask the Wolfgang Halbig supporters once again… why would you EVER, EVER, EVER put your faith in someone appointed by Jeb Bush, or associated with the Bush Crime Family???

        Oh, but I forgot, Halbig is a big “supporter of Israel”… right, right, sorry… that’s why he hangs out with the Bush Crime Family (CIA, Nazis) and the Veterans Today crew.

        Cheers,
        Joel

  26. Jack Blood says:

    AFP INTERVIEW: Father of Little Boy Murdered at Sandy Hook Speaks
    June 14, 2014

    http://americanfreepress.net/?p=17677

    • Lenny Pozner remembers son, condemns fearmongers.

    By Keith Johnson —

    The loss of a child is a pain few parents can imagine. For those whose children were brutally murdered at the Sandy Hook Elementary School (SHES) on December 14, 2012, in Newtown, Connecticut, that incalculable grief has been made worse by a group of conspiracy theorists who have accused them of being actors in an elaborately staged hoax. Among the few surviving family members who have spoken out against these accusations is Lenny Pozner, whose son, Noah, was among the 26 women and children killed that fateful morning.

    In an exclusive interview with this AMERICAN FREE PRESS reporter, Lenny opened up about his ongoing struggle to address the myths and falsehoods surrounding the SHES tragedy, his attempts to meet with the so-called “truth seekers” who have been spreading those lies and the resistance he’s faced at every turn.

    “I used to entertain conspiracy theories until I found myself at the center of one,” said Lenny. “That’s when I really woke up and realized that some are more interested in propagating fear than getting at the truth.”

    Although these hoax theories primarily flourished on obscure websites and YouTube videos in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy, Lenny said they attracted a much larger audience after radio host Alex Jones virtually endorsed them in a video segment posted on his website.

    “In the last month and a half, I have not come out and said this was clearly a staged event,” Jones announced on January 27, 2013. “Unfortunately, evidence is beginning to come out that points more and more in that direction.”

    Troubled by the position Jones was taking, Lenny decided to contact him.

    “My family and I had already been victimized,” he explained. “Items were stolen off our property and people were driving by our house taking pictures and posting them on the Internet along with their weird theories. Alex was now adding fuel to the fire and I was concerned that these intrusions would continue to escalate.”

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    In an email to Jones, Lenny addressed the growing anger and unwarranted accusations directed at the Newtown families that had lost their children.

    “Haven’t we had our share of pain and suffering?” Lenny asked. “I used to enjoy listening to your shows prior to 12-14-12. Now I feel that your type of show created these hateful people and they need to be reeled in!”

    Lenny said he received a prompt reply from Jones’s assistant, Aaron Dykes.

    “He wrote and said that ‘Alex has no doubt that this was a real tragedy and sympathizes with the victims and their affected loved ones,’ ” Lenny said. “I also received an email from Paul Joseph Watson of [the website] ‘Prison Planet’ who said they had ‘actively distanced’ themselves from the ‘actors thing’ and believed it ‘was a very real tragedy with very real victims.’ ”

    Lenny continued: “Although these replies sound sincere, Alex Jones has since had conspiracy theorists Wolfgang Halbig and Florida Professor James Tracy on his program. All of these people are cut from the same cloth. They’ve all been exploiting the Sandy Hook murders and continue to promote the theory that it was a hoax. They’re influencing the minds of gullible kids who basically need a way to cope with distressing events. So I sent emails out to all three. If they were real investigators looking for answers they would have contacted me.”

    Lenny went on to say that none of the men replied to his emails. He did, however, contact Halbig through a third party, who reported back that Halbig did not wish to speak with him.

    The reluctance of these so-called truth seekers to meet with this accommodating Sandy Hook parent is puzzling to say the least. Of the surviving family members, Lenny has been the most accessible and transparent. Not only does he maintain a website where he shares family photos and personal insights on Noah, he’s also publicly released his son’s birth certificate, report card, death certificate and two pages of an investigative report by the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner despite these documents being exempt from disclosure under Connecticut’s Freedom of Information Act.

    “People still aren’t satisfied, though,” Lenny said. “To them, every document is a fake and every witness is part of a grand conspiracy. Now they want to dig up the bodies. They can’t be taken seriously. They’ve become completely detached from reality.”

    When asked what he hopes his efforts will achieve, Lenny replied: “All we have left are the cherished memories of the children and loved ones we lost on December 14, 2012. They were our flesh and blood. They were real human beings who were robbed of this precious gift of life and the world was robbed of really knowing them. I intend to preserve and protect those memories.”

    • Jim Fetzer says:

      As though these claims were supposed to overcome the mountain of evidence we have that it was a hoax, including the lack of intensity, the missing 600 children, the lack of an evacuation plan and much, much more. It’s easy to fabricate documents and records, which is one of the CIA’s areas of specialization. Kelley from Tulsa has spent a lot of time talking with “Lenny” and she is convinced he is not Noah’s father but his grandfather, where I suspect she is right. It is astounding to me that someone like Jack Blood, who prides himself on being super-astute and seeing through shams, has been totally taken in by the official narrative of Sandy Hook.

      • Jack Blood says:

        Why are you so DESPERATE to prove your theory? And I have NOT been taken in by ANY “Official Narrative”, which is why what you and Wolf are doing upsets people like me. YOU are helping prop up the Official story with these bizarre theories, which BTW CNN is all too happy to report! Why is that Jim? I have also spoken with Lenny Pozner. Its nearly impossible to interview the VICTIMS thanks to you! If you read what Lenny is saying… He was with us before y’all turned him against Truthers! —- Have you no Empathy sir? I am speaking with Dave now for your “debate”

      • Jack Blood says:

        Lenny Pozner denies this allegation BTW – do y’all have any EVIDENCE? What proof do we have that Jim Fetzer is not an actor? (besides documents) uh huh. https://www.facebook.com/groups/CTanon/

      • Riley P Jones says:

        Evidence? Allegation, suspicion, coincidence, opinion and theory are not evidence. Your links to the Veterans Today articles are all variations of that theme.Nothing solid, just something doesn’t seem to be right to your way of thinking, so it must be a coverup. It is tragic that no amount of records or documents are acceptable items of proof because that’s the “CIA’s areas of specialization.” Instead “Kelley from Tulsa” without a shred of any type of of evidence other than her own gut feeling and intuition is given credence as a reliable source that Mr. Pozner is not who he says he is.

        You should be ashamed.

        I think you’re a foreign government operative (possibly even foreign born) whose only current mission to is to sow seeds of paranoia and discontent to the gullible American public. We know your associate Mr. Halbig has exaggerated his resume and was not born in the United States. We are known by the people we associate with, and the signs point a similar background for you. Your expertise in government operations suggest more than an average citizen seeking truth. Something that a foreign government operative would be trained to exploit. Prove us wrong, Jim. Or is that even your real first name.

        See how easy it is.

        • Jim Fetzer says:

          Riley P. Jones, you are long on smears and short on substantiation, which means you are the one committing the fallacies you accuse me of. I have documented my arguments in every case, where I suggest that you actually read “Top Ten Reasons: Sandy Hook was an elaborate hoax”, “Sandy Hook Redux: Obama officials confirm that it was a drill and no children died” and “Sandy Hook Elementary School: Closed in 2008, a stage in 2012”. If you find something you think I have wrong, then cite what I have said and why I say it, then explain what you think I have wrong and how you know. Otherwise, you are just one more blowhard.

          • Riley P Jones says:

            I will point out a specific. Without ANY substantiation you attempt to impugn the reputation of Mr. Pozner, by suggesting that someone who talked to him THINKS he was the grandfather of the murdered child instead of the father. You “suspect” (your own words) she might be right. This is an obvious attempt to smear Mr Pozner’s reputation, thus in your eyes advancing your version of the narrative.

            Yes, I did read the “Top Ten Reasons”. I can’t cite why you say what you say. The only thing I can say is that most of these “reasons” are based on opinion or are outright crackpot theories. I mean really, how qualified are you or even one of your so-called experts able to determine from television clips when a person is acting inappropriately? And if they were acting inappropriately, that is not proof of a conspiracy that children were not really murdered. “Deceased children sing at Super Bowl?” First of all, how crazy does that sound? Second, where is the PROOF?

            You can’t have it both ways. IF they CIA are masters of deception with documents, don’t you also think they could control the story and players?

            Another instance where the story conflicts with your narrative is that Sandy Hook was closed since 2008. But in another story you or one of your minions say that there was a multi million dollar upgrade of the security system. Why would they spend that much money on a closed school’s security system? You can’t say that the school was closed in one breath and in the next say that the upgraded video system’s footage wasn’t released.

            We are entitled to reasonable answers about what happened at Sandy Hook. We are not entitled to every single record that exists. We are not entitled to make outlandish conclusions, and then use a lack of real, substantive evidence as proof that your theories are correct.

            Do we know everything that happened that day? No. Were mistakes made? Yes. Does a lot of it not make sense? Yes. Is that proof that children weren’t murdered? No. Is the absence of evidence proof of a theory? No.

            Veterans Today spends a lot of time on UFO conspiracies too. Apparently you have a rich fantasy life.

            BTW, you didn’t do anything to refute my accusation you’re a foreign agent.

            If you’re looking for blowhards, look in the mirror.

          • Jim Fetzer says:

            Very amusing, Riley. We have a photo taken from a Connecticut police chopper at 9:15, which is 20 minutes BEFORE the first 911 call. Did they simply intuit that they would be needed? Sandy Hook was a K-4 school with around 626 students. If you subtract 20, that leaves around 600. WHERE ARE THEY? And there would have been about 75 others on the staff, including custodians. WHERE ARE THEY? There are no busses there to evacuate them, even though FEMA requires every school to have an evacuation plan. WHY NO SENSE OF URGENCY? No one is in a rush to get assistance. There was no surge of EMTs into the building to rush those little bodies off to hospitals where they could be declared dead or alive. Even the parents were not allowed to see their bodies–only photographs! There were almost no ambulances or other emergency vehicles, which were kept at the Fire House 1/4 mile away. WHAT’S WITH THAT?

            I am sorry, but you are blowing a lot of smoke here. Several school safety experts have make the same or similar observations. I would bet that you did not listen to the interview with Paul Preston, who has personal contacts in the Department of Education. They all told him that it had been a “false flag” and confirmed it was a drill, that no one had died and that it had been done to promote an aggressive anti-gun agenda. The “final reports” from the CT authorities do not include the names, the ages or the sex of any of the victims. The Clerk of Newtown entered into secrete negotiations with the legislature to avoid releasing death certificates. The Attorney General argued against the release of the 911 calls. A special panel of the legislature recommended that any state employee who released information about Sandy Hook other than via FOIA requests be subject to an E-felony and face five years in prison. Those hired for the school’s demolition were made to sign lifetime gag orders against talking about anything they saw or did not see. “Nothing unusual here–just move along!” You must be incredibly gullible.

          • Riley P Jones says:

            I’m sorry Jim. I didn’t know you were actually there to be able to see what went on. I mean after all, that’s the only way to conclusively know. Unless of course your contention is that all the video documented from the beginning to end everything that happened. That would mean that anything and everything that was too unpleasant (like little bodies, hysterical people, etc.) to see was left in. Sorry, they may put scenes like that in movies and TV, but my need to know does not extend to graphic images of tragedy.

            I notice also you defend what you perceive to be your best smoking guns of evidence. You don’t mention your goofy ideas about victims singing at the Super Bowl. Or that a small person could carry a rifle, a hand gun and ammunition was incapable of doing so. Bruce Lee only weighed 15 pounds more that Adam Lanza. And your “expert” says that he’s not even convinced that Adam Lanza was a real person?

            One more thing. Your buddy Paul Preston, alleges his “personal contacts within the Department of Education ” have confirmed the false flag. Now really. I’m not a lawyer, but I believe on Perry Mason, they called that “hearsay” and isn’t considered evidence. Can you produce proof of Mr Preston’s allegations? Or is he just another kook trying to cash in?

            What’s to stop me from saying I have contacts in the CIA, and they told me they didn’t have anything to do with Sandy Hook? Nothing. That’s what Mr. Preston’s statement amounts to. Nothing.

            You allege facts, but provide none. You say the government creates a conspiracy and that any evidence they produce to the contrary is tainted. Yet you don’t hold yourself and the feeble minded that are party to your fool’s errand to any degree of producing real facts or evidence.

            Why would anybody be taking a picture of a helicopter at 9:15? Are they so rare in Connecticut that the sight of one is a photo opportunity? Are we sure that the time on the camera was set correctly? Could someone have altered the photo? Or is it only the government that does that?

          • Jim Fetzer says:

            You don’t know the difference between a photo taken FROM a chopper and a photo taken OF a chopper? Kelley from Tulsa has spent at least eight hours with “Lenny” Pozner on the phone. Unlike you, she is not easily taken in–and she believes he is the grandfather, not the father. Both school experts (Wolfgang Halbig and Paul Preston) are struck that no lawsuits have been filed, which is extremely odd. In virtually every other school shooting, there has been a raft of lawsuits for the schools not having provided adequate security. Wolf has been asking for information about the alleged upgrade in the security system, but no one is willing to provide it. He has had FOIA requests unanswered and phone calls not returned, even though he is a former Florida state trooper with more than 35 years in the school systems (including as principal and vice principal) where he became involved in this because he wanted to know what had happened so he could advise other school districts to make sure nothing like that happened to them. Instead of being helped with his inquiries, local homicide detectives came to his home and told him, on behalf of the Connecticut State Police, that they would prosecute him if he continued to question about Sandy Hook. (“Nothing unusual here–just move along!”)

            Your capacity for reasoning is in doubt. Yes, the footage from a security system authorities CLAIM was upgraded has not been released, not doubt because the school was closed in 2008 and there is no “footage”. I can’t believe you are unable to differentiate between the CLAIMS MADE BY OFFICIALS and THE EVIDENCE THAT CONTRADICTS IT. You have shown that you are a careless reader and that you do not understand the cast, but nothing wrong with our research. As for me being a foreign agent, that is a nice illustration of your incompetence at research. I am a former commissioned officer in the US Marine Corps. I earned my Ph.D. in the history and the philosophy of science. I have published three collections of expert studies exposing the cover-up and assassination of JFK, another on the atrocities of 9/11 and co-authored a book on the plane crash that took the life of Senator Paul Wellstone. I founded Scholars for 9/11 Truth and have published several dozen studies about it, which expose the complicity of the CIA, the US neo-cons and the Mossad. The towers were blown apart using a sophisticated arrangement of mini or micro nukes. None of the alleged aircraft used that day actually crashed. (For those who want more, read “Peeling the 9/11 Onion: Layers of Plots within Plots” with Preston James, and on the WTC and the planes, see “The Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference”, especially Part 2.)

            Why you would advance such a bizarre insinuation is beyond me. The fact is that anyone can visit my academic web site, http://www.d.umn.edu/~jfetzer/ but apparently you didn’t bother. Anyone can read my articles on Veterans Today, http://veteranstoday.com/author/fetzer/ but you are a slovenly reader. Anyone can listen to the 700+ radio interviews I have done on these and other complex and controversial issues at http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com. But I doubt you would grasp them any better than you have some of these on Sandy Hook. Apparently it’s too challenging a question for you to address why anyone who has spent so much of his time exposing the complicity of the CIA and other government entities in JFK, 9/11, Wellstone, Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing would be some kind of agent of disinformation. I don’t want to overburden your intellectual competence, but you are displaying your ignorance. (“Noting unusual here–just move along!”)

          • Jack Blood says:

            debate for Late July jim – you had me at Hello

          • Jack Blood says:

            Can you produce proof of Mr Preston’s allegations? Or is he just another kook trying to cash in?

            What’s to stop me from saying I have contacts in the CIA, and they told me they didn’t have anything to do with Sandy Hook? Nothing. That’s what Mr. Preston’s statement amounts to. Nothing.

            Tomorrow’s show: Jack’s CIA contacts have anonymously told him that Jim Fetzer is an “Operation Chaos” asset… Tune in. Donate! ALSO: Bonus coverage….. You Tube video proves that Wolfgang Halbig is a holographic, shape shifting reptilian. Trust me.

  27. Jim Fetzer says:

    Kelley from Tulsa has spent at least eight hours with “Lenny” Pozner on the phone. Unlike you, she is not easily taken in–and she believes he is the grandfather, not the father. Both school experts (Wolfgang Halbig and Paul Preston) are struck that no lawsuits have been filed, which is extremely odd. In virtually every other school shooting, there has been a raft of lawsuits for the schools not having provided adequate security. Wolf has been asking for information about the alleged upgrade in the security system, but no one is willing to provide it. He has had FOIA requests unanswered and phone calls not returned, even though he is a former Florida state trooper with more than 35 years in the school systems (including as principal and vice principal) where he became involved in this because he wanted to know what had happened so he could advise other school districts to make sure nothing like that happened to them. Instead of being helped with his inquiries, local homicide detectives came to his home and told him, on behalf of the Connecticut State Police, that they would prosecute him if he continued to question about Sandy Hook. (“Nothing unusual here–just move along!)

    Your capacity for reasoning is in doubt. Yes, the footage from a security system authorities CLAIM was upgraded has not been released, not doubt because the school was closed in 2008 and there is no “footage”. I can’t believe you are unable to differentiate between the CLAIMS MADE BY OFFICIALS and THE EVIDENCE THAT CONTRADICTS IT. You have shown that you are a careless reader and that you do not understand the cast, but nothing wrong with our research.
    As for me being a foreign agent, that is a nice illustration of your incompetence at research. I am a former commissioned officer in the US Marine Corps. I earned my Ph.D. in the history and the philosophy of science. I spent 35 years offering courses in logic, critical thinking and scientific reasoning. I have published three collections of expert studies exposing the cover-up and assassination of JFK, another on the atrocities of 9/11 and co-authored a book on the plane crash that took the life of Senator Paul Wellstone. I founded Scholars for 9/11 Truth and have published several dozen studies about it, which expose the complicity of the CIA, the US neo-cons and the Mossad. The towers were blown apart using a sophisticated arrangement of mini or micro nukes. None of the alleged aircraft used that day actually crashed. (For those who want more, read “Peeling the 9/11 Onion: Layers of Plots within Plots” with Preston James, and on the WTC and the planes, see “The Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference”, especially Part 2.)

    Why you would advance such a bizarre insinuation is beyond me. The fact is that anyone can visit my academic web site, http://www.d.umn.edu/~jfetzer/ but apparently you didn’t bother. Anyone can read my articles on Veterans Today, http://veteranstoday.com/author/fetzer/ but you are a slovenly reader. Anyone can listen to the 700+ radio interviews I have done on these and other complex and controversial issues, but I doubt you would grasp them any better than you have some of these on Sandy Hook. Apparently it’s too challenging a question for you to address why anyone who has spent so much of his time exposing the complicity of the CIA and other government entities in JFK, 9/11, Wellstone, Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing would be some kind of agent of disinformation. I don’t want to overburden your intellectual competence, but you are displaying your ignorance. (“Noting unusual here–just move along!”)

    • Riley p jones says:

      The accusation, not the insinuation was that you are a foreign agent. You might have done an excellent job of developing your cover over a period of many years until you were activated.

      Can you prove you’re not an agent? You could be all of those things and still be a disinformation agent.

      The accusation was of course sarcasm. Something I guess you don’t recognize. At least Jack does.

      Everything you have listed in your resume does nothing to advance your story. In fact, it would be interesting to read your dissertation to see how often you digressed from the subject, as you have here.

      More sarcasm alert. I must have been out of town the day all the major news outlets announced that you had connected all the conspiracies with proof positive of all of your allegations.

      You could be interviewed 700+ times and if your conclusions are wrong that means you spread misinformation 700+ times. You can say anything, then put it on the Internet and claim it is proof when it is anything but proof.

      I could say I developed a cure for cancer, get some publicity for it, then throw up a website that uses my interviews and wrong headed ideas as claims of proof.

      Instead of answering the looney allegations, like dead kids singing at the Superbowl you resort to personal attacks. I thought you were a philosophy major. Is that how you learned to debate? Attack the other person in the debate instead of responding to points you don’t have the answer to?

      • Jim Fetzer says:

        You don’t know the difference between my HOSTING 700+ interviews and being the SUBJECT of 700+ interviews? Like you don’t know the difference between a photograph FROM a chopper and a photograph OF a chopper? or a STUDENT of philosophy and a PROFESSOR of philosophy? I think I am beginning to understand why you are making so many fallacious, uninformed and incompetent posts. If you want to show that I have something wrong, you are going to have to read my articles and come to grips with my arguments, which are based on evidence that I present in those articles themselves.

        • Riley p jones says:

          Ah, but you don’t specify in your post whether you are the interviewer or interviewee. Are these interviews on real terestial radio stations or Internet radio stations with a few fringe listeners?

          • Jim Fetzer says:

            No wonder so many are drawn to this site: the research ability, analytical reasoning and penetrating to the heart of the matter like this is truly impressive! No wonder you are so thoroughly satisfied with yourself!

  28. Riley P Jones says:

    With all the lively debate, we’ve kind of strayed from the topic of this forum. Found this interesting tidbit about our good buddy Mr. Halbig.

    http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/05/wolfgang-halbig-fraud-ceiling-raised-to.html

    • Jim Fetzer says:

      These attacks on Wolfgang, who has done more to put Sandy Hook on the map as an issue than anyone else, are classic AD HOMINEM attacks. Even if they were well-founded, they do nothing to show that his critique of Sandy Hook is wrong. I spent 35 years teaching freshmen to avoid such fallacies, but they are an area of specialization for some who are posting here.

      “Wolfgang Halbig heads for Newtown in pursuit of the truth about Sandy Hook”
      http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/24/wolfgang-halbig-heads-to-newtown-for-the-truth-about-sandy-hook/

      See the NYC Gold Shield Detective, the ATF special agent and the former FBI’s stop shrink

      “The Newtown School Board Meeting and the meaning of silence”
      http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05/09/the-newtown-school-board-meeting-and-the-meaning-of-silence/

      Listen to our interview with Jeff Rense about the reception we received throughout the day

      “Sandy Hook Redux: Obama officials confirm that it was a drill and no children died”
      http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/13/sandy-hook-redux-obama-officials-confirm-that-it-was-a-drill-and-no-children-died/

      Notice how powerfully another expert confirms and strengthens Wolfgang’s observations

      • Jack Blood says:

        If this is such a big HOAX…. Why does CNN constantly promote the Theory, and the people driving them? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNhjq0xBmyw

        STILL WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO DETAIL A PLAUSIBLE MOTIVE TO HOAX, AND NOT JUST MURDER….

        What is Occam’s Razor?

        The most useful statement of the principle for scientists is
        “when you have two competing theories that make exactly the same predictions, the simpler one is the better.”
        “If you have two theories that both explain the observed facts, then you should use the simplest until more evidence comes along”
        “The simplest explanation for some phenomenon is more likely to be accurate than more complicated explanations.”

        • Jim Fetzer says:

          Let’s discuss this during our debate. How about next week? Thursday looks good to me. There’s a lot for us to discuss. Let Gahary know.

          • Jack Blood says:

            Since you keep posting here on -Ahem- my home website, I will post as well. (weird huh?) I am somewhat surprised that you don’t have something “more important” to do. SO – as I told Dave (Your choice BTW) – I cant do it until after the 25th of July as I will be traveling and speaking in TX. This will give you more time to get your story straight, or back out… ha ha. I assure you that my “Radio Gun” is clean, and ready to hit the target!

          • Jim Fetzer says:

            Jack, Just to nail this down, how about Thursday, 31 July 2014? If that works for you, I will let Dave Gahary know. I am also looking forward to it.

  29. Riley P Jones says:

    You reference “Sandy Hook Redux:…” I mentioned this earlier as something that would be considered hearsay, thus inadmissible as evidence. Your friend without any independent confirmation or names of the officials alleges he was told that Sandy Hook was a hoax.

    On the matter of Kelley from Tulsa. Is she really a cleaning lady, or a trained, licensed detective? My cleaning lady is an intelligent woman, but her ability to determine the facts relating to the paternity of a child by talking to someone is in doubt.

    Again, you use someone whose creditability can be impeached so easily as a source for your narrative.

    It’s interesting that you don’t hold your sources to any sort of level of credibility, but reams of documents more of less supporting the official story are disregarded as manufactured and unreliable. If Mr. Preston is telling the truth, let him prove it by naming names.

    As I’ve stated before, anybody can say anything on the Internet (and they do) That doesn’t make it the truth.

    Posting things from your own columns is hardly independent confirmation of anything.

    As for AD HOMINEM, that is exactly what you have used in responding to my previous post. You have questioned my intellectual capacity, my reasoning ability and called me slovenly.

    You have ignored my repeated questions about outlandish scenarios, or referred me to articles that you mostly written yourself that have claimed to have proof without presenting any real evidence.

    There are enough real problems this nation is facing without continually exploiting a very real tragedy by claiming it never happened.

    AD HOMINEM can also be used as a source for guilt by association.

    You and Wolfgang are two birds of a feather. Since the real news media have chosen to ignore your specious claims of expertise and secret knowledge, you seek to exploit the cognitive dissonance of people trying to make sense of senseless acts.

    Again, you should be ashamed.

    You have apparently had a long and distinguished educational career. You are damaging your reputation by putting forth outlandish claims supported by references and sources you would never accept on a term paper from a student.

    • Jim Fetzer says:

      You really are a fraud. I present EVIDENCE in my articles, something that is foreign to you. When I make an argument, I back it up, something you do not do. You are full of ad hominems. That is all you have to offer. You seen to have an inflated opinion of yourself, which, like your opinions about Wolfgang Halbig, Paul Preston and Sandy Hook, has nothing to back it up. The idea of dismissing an article that is chock-full of evidence and argument BECAUSE I WROTE IT is beyond incompetence. Having no recourse by way of rebuttal, you simply dismiss it! You are a fraud.

    • Jim Fetzer says:

      Stop beating around the bush. If you want to show I have something wrong, you are going to have to read my articles and refute my arguments. You are grandstanding by taking for granted that you are right and I am wrong. That is childish and is known as “begging the question”. So if you are the thinker that you claim to be, then cite what I have said and why I said it, then explain what I have wrong and how your know. You claim I have not presented any “real evidence” on the apparent ground that you don’t like it. But it’s all from public sources, which I document. So do us all a favor and start dealing with my arguments instead of running away from them like a scarred rabbit. Show us your stuff. Explain what I have wrong and how you know for a change.

      • Jack Blood says:

        DO AS YOU SAY – NOT AS YOU DO?

        Jim, whether you are aware of it or not, you have done exactly what you have accused Riley of. From Ad Homs (at your very worst above) to brushing aside Lenny Pozner, and conflicting info with such ease, and disrespect. (You know the old saying: when you point your finger at someone, you are left with 3 fingers pointing back at yourself)

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW0j0smt8fY

        I think that Riley has just been giving you a taste of your own medicine. Good for him.

        ——>You conveniently left out an important part of your resume Jim:

        You helped to fracture the 911 truth movement causing a virtual war within the ranks. I am still carrying the bad taste you displayed at the AZ accountability Conf. You did the same thing in the JFK research community (according to just about everyone Ive spoken to)… add The “suicide” show you did sabotaging my own show in 2009?, and now this.

        My personal opinion is that you jump on (or create) these FAD theories to promote yourself, and dont care what you have to say, or who you injure in the process. You are hurting SH victims IMO, and creating a psychosis that has become dangerous to innocent civilians… and yeah, brand all who research conspiracies as “crazy” and unable to comprehend reality.

        Even IF I was 99% sure that every family member surviving SH was an “actor” or a liar…. I WOULD NEVER PUBLICLY SAY IT UNTIL I WAS 100% SURE. I call this empathy. I walk in another’s shoes and ask myself how I would deal with what I dish out. (Govt, MIC, SIC, Wall St Elites, Nobility aside… They sign up for such critiques) Its one thing to ask questions in the search for truth… its another thing to bully people, and attempt to CONTROL the entire truth community at large. (ala Oprah Jones in TX)
        * And that is why you are here I take it. To talk / YELL, not to hear and commiserate.
        IE: Your agenda in thinly veiled Jim. Not ONCE have you asked, “What do y’all think happened?”

        Also FYI: Many of us will not go to VT due to the creepy spook aspect of it. This is maybe why people like Jeff Gates have denounced VT and Gordon Duff. Please repost the info here if you like. Thanks. Sorry to have to be harsh – you ask for it.

        • Jim Fetzer says:

          A nice example of not knowing what you are talking about. T. Mark Hightower and I have published three articles exposing the myth of “explosive nanothermite”. If you care about truth, then you should want to advance it by exposing false theories. See

          “Has nanothermite been oversold to the 9/11 Truth community?”
          http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2011/05/has-nanothermite-been-oversold-to-911.html

          “Is ‘9/11 Truth’ based upon a false theory?”
          http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/17/is-911-truth-based-upon-a-false-theory/

          “Nanothermite: If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit!”
          http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/27/nanothermite-if-it-doesnt-fit-you-must-acquit/

          I am willing to bet you have read none of them. During the Vancouver Hearings, we had a series of presentations about how the Twin Towers appear to have been taken out, which involved the use of a sophisticated arrangement of mini or micro nukes:

          “9/11 Truth will out: The Vancouver Hearings II”
          http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/12/911-truth-will-out-the-vancouver-hearings-ii/

          “Mini Neutron Bombs: A Major Piece of the 9/11 Puzzle” with Don Fox, Clare Kuehn, Jeff Prager, Jim Viken, Dr. Ed Ward and Dennis Cimino
          http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/29/mini-neutron-bombs-a-major-piece-of-the-911-puzzle/

          “Mystery Solved: The WTC was Nuked on 9/11”
          http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/01/mystery-solved-the-wtc-was-nuked-on-911/

          So I find it incredible that you think exposing a major blunder by Steve Jones, Kevin Ryan and others WAS A BAD THING. He was using fabricated photographs and other misleading “evidence” to support the case for a theory that cannot possibly be right.

          Your making false claims about my role in 9/11 research is on a par with this Riley guy’s dismissing my arguments without even considering them. If you are honest, you will admit you haven’t read any of the articles that I have cited here, have you?

          And to dismiss what is published on Veterans Today BECAUSE it is published on VT is simply absurd. I pose to you the same challenge I have posed to him: If you think I have something wrong, then cite it, explain why I say and and show how I am wrong.

          That is not what goes on here on your site, Jack. You tolerate all kind of ad homs and never call anyone to account. There is a mountain of proof that Sandy Hook was a hoax and no children died, which we can debate when the time comes. OK?

          But you do not understand the nature of scientific reasoning when you talk about 100% certainty. No empirical knowledge is certain, because new hypotheses and new evidence can lead to the rejection of beliefs previously accepted and so forth.

          That does not mean there are not standards for rational belief in matters of this kind. When one hypothesis provides an explanation with sufficient strength and no alternative is reasonable, it has been established “beyond a reasonable doubt”.

          It was obvious when I came here that your minds were already made up. What would have been the point of asking, “What do you think?” I could read. It was obvious. And if you are right and I am wrong, then our exchange during a debate should show it.

          I am not into FADS. That is just silly. If there has ever been a FAD in 9/11 research, it’s that it was done using nanothermite. I don’t care if a position is popular or not. I care about explanatory adequacy, given the evidence, which I know how to appraise.

          • Jack Blood says:

            A preview of our debate: Fetzer will accuse me of not reading all of his work, and will ignore whatever I say. I will be treated as an uneducated noob, even though I attended MIT for post grad work. Then a series of semantic arguments will ensue to confuse the listener…. Then Fetzer will declare HIMSELF a winner. Cant wait (eye roll)

          • Jim Fetzer says:

            This will be great, Jack. And you say that because I have been ignoring what you have written here in response to your posts? I have been ignoring what you have written here, so you infer that I am going to ignore what you say during the debate? Nice way to apologize for the debate in advance. (By the way, I wrote a long response to “Joel”, but it disappeared. Did you get it?)

          • Jack Blood says:

            I see the response. Its clear. (or)… I must be approving all of your comments, but hiding just this one. Really? and I KNOW … Just saying – If you tell me to go read something you wrote on a live talk show, I will laugh at you. You have a big mouth, make use of it please. I already know that i wont get through to you. You are too invested. But I may reach some others. Also – when your psychotic fans send me threats and hate mail …. I can just point to the archive of the debate. Remember Jim – I let YOU pick the moderator! I don’t mind being the visiting team. The facts are on my side here. I am too busy to keep replying to your egoist nonsense – So I will have to let you get the last word in here… and the next few last words + some more last words….. ha

          • Joel says:

            Hi Jack,
            Congrats on the debate last nite… I think you did a pretty good job against Fetzer, although there are many things I don’t agree with either of you about.

            I think you very much misrepresented my position on Robbie Parker, you said that “I don’t believe it”… this just isn’t true, and I don’t want to get in a big pointless argument over this, however, you must realize that my position is that the 911 caller is 100% Robbie Parker’s voice.

            On the positive side… I’ll just have to be happy that I was the only Sandy Hook researcher mentioned by name in the debate… any exposure is good exposure I suppose.

            On the negative side… my personal advice is that I would be very cautious believing anything from CW Wade, Lenny Pozner, or the incredibly ignorant, rude, and misinformed Keith Johnson. Lenny is well known for running around the internet stalking and threatening people, and he apparently runs a company specializing in “internet censorship”… I have not personally researched this, but this is what I’ve heard. Perhaps you should ask Lenny why he hasn’t launched a lawsuit against the Newtown School District or the State Of Connecticut for their many, many, many failings and mistakes that day.

            I’ve caught Keith Johnson in a number of outright lies about Sandy Hook… you may want to ask why Keith is lying… you may want to ask why CW Wade (obviously ex military) is spending so much time deceiving people about actual Sandy Hook facts… BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, you may want to ask why CW Wade posts things like this on his website:

            “Day by day, the crimes of Hoaxers mount, from robberies, to stalking, to harassment, and even a spree killer.”

            So now anyone researching the horribly flawed official story of Sandy Hook is painted as a “criminal”, a “stalker”, and a soon to be “killer”… this very quickly gets into validating “Internet Censorship”, which I doubt you are in favor of.

            I was going to make this a personal email, but I decided there is nothing here that shouldn’t be public, and other researchers may find this information valuable.

            Cheers,
            Joel [Redacted]

          • deirdre says:

            Joel,

            i havent read all your stuff on SH. but you arent a very good researcher.

            i also probably havent heard ALL of Keith Johnsons debates, but i’ve heard alot of them and he has never lied. Why dont you back up your accusations with some specifics?

            Typical CT, making statements without evidence to back them up.

          • Joel says:

            Dear Dear Deirdre,
            I have done far more research on the topic of Sandy Hook, and I’ve been doing it long before, either Jim Fetzer or Keith Johnson ever decided to stick their toe into this topic.

            You may want to review my videos on YouTube under the titling of “SANDY HOOK COVENANT”, there are currently eight.

            I believe Sandy Hook was a government op, but that does not mean I have to agree with Jim Fetzer’s version of events. Also, Keith Johnson was incredibly wrong, or outright lied, about a number of things… he’s recorded saying them, and they will be highlighted at the appropriate time.

            Cheers,
            Joel

  30. Mogga says:

    In this “video”, Halbig, in explaining why he lacked the spine to meet Lenny Pozner, clearly says that Pozner “Lost a son”. Then he later says he doesn’t believe that children died!
    He’s STILL peddling the same crap, too, “Who declared the children dead” The police officers made “dead right there” declarations. How many times does this idiot have to be told the same thing?
    But wait! He says there’s a script!………..Oh, but he can’t reveal the details.
    The man’s a publicity seeking charlatan.

  31. Jack Blood says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VD6DHFua1Y

    Sandy Hook Hoax Update: Wolfgang Halbig’s Exit and Review …

  32. Jack Blood says:

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hotbuttondebates/2014/07/25/sandy-hook-fact-or-fiction

    Dave Gahary moderates a debate between Keith Johnson and Wolfgang Halbig, who debate and discuss Wolf’s upcoming trip to Hartford, Connecticut, where he will lend support to Jonathan Reich and his family and hire an attorney who will file a civil lawsuit regarding the Sandy Hook Elementary School event.

  33. Jim Fetzer says:

    For those who would appreciate links to my most recent work (which Jack Blood does not appear to have read–what else is new?–even though it blows the case out of the water, see these:

    “The Sandy Hook ‘smoking gun”: Game, Set, Match!”
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/22/the-sandy-hook-smoking-gun-game-set-match/

    “Shannon Hicks denies staging her fake ‘iconic’ Sandy Hook photograph”
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/24/shannon-hicks-denies-staging-her-fake-iconic-sandy-hook-photograph/

    “Sandy Hook, Stephen Sedensky, William Shanley and the Elaborate Hoax”
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/28/sandy-hook-stephen-sedensky-william-shanley-and-the-elaborate-hoax/

    How Jack Blood or others here can continue to defend a fabricated event, which was staged to instill fear into the American public to make us more amenable to political manipulation, is beyond me. This was an act of terrorism!

    • Riley P Jones says:

      I have come to the conclusion that Dr. Fetzer is mentally impaired either through age or some malady. It is obvious that he is (was?) an intelligent man who deserves a certain amount of respect for his service to our country and as an educator. However, after reading his ridiculous assertions from everything to 9-11 to Sandy Hook, there is enough proof to make this claim. I know he will claim this as an Ad hominem attack, but the references he cites as “evidence” can hardly be described as anything but rumor and innuendo. If you take issue with him about his proclamations, he comes across much as Clint Eastwood’s cantankerous old man in “Gran Torino” who yells at kids to get out his yard. As we age, it is difficult for us to maintain a sense of relevancy. Maybe the Internet is his version of sitting around all morning at McDonald’s with his free cup of coffee.

  34. kathy says:

    I am a first time listener to the Dave Gahary moderated debate between Jack Blood and Jim Fetzer. This is also the first time I’ve ever commented.

    If this debate is representative of my fellow critical thinkers I am thoroughly discouraged.

    Mr Jack Blood you are not a truth seeker. You brought nothing to the table other than division and deflection.

    From those who incite division I turn away.

    • Jack Blood says:

      The division comes From Fetzer and crew. I was not allowed to ask any questions, but merely respond to NONSENSE!

      I was minding my own business when Fetzer came to this thread (above), and dared me to print his posts, and debate him. I did that. I wasn’t seeking that, and I’m done. Critical thinking means delving into ALL of the info…. not just the Hoaxer angle. Zero Proof that the families are actors and liars! / Thanks. ~ Jack Blood

  35. Huey says:

    It appears that Mr. Fetzer never met a conspiracy theory that he didn’t like. Despite the impressive background he claims he seemed to get the worst of it from Jack and Riley. It is too funny that he complains about ad hominem attacks and then spends all his time insulting people. Riley seems to be a normal, emotionally well balanced person. It is surprising that he spent that much time arguing with people that are clearly nutcases out of touch with reality.

    Anyone should have been able to see that Halbig was a fraud. There is a sucker born every minute ad conspiracy nuts are the biggest chumps of all

    It was claimed that Sandy Hook was an acting job to help with gun control.
    No guns were involved for the Boston Bombing so there must have been a different reason to hire all those actors again and paying off so many of the people in Boston( Police, EMT, Hospital workers, journalists,TV crew, runners spectators). At least we know that our gov’t is so efficient they do this all the time and it is obviously easy to keep a secret among thousands of people. So surely someone will call for lots of debate and investigations. That makes a lot of sense in someone’s universe.

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